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Catching the Next Wave

Inspired conversations on 21st-century leadership, design, and transformation.

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Aga and Łukasz Szóstek inspire leaders to reflect on the possibilities and challenges of 21st-century leadership through inspired conversations with amazing guests. They together discuss topics such as change, innovation, common sense, empowerment and more, each of them unique for one season of their podcast. Join them as they Catch The Next Wave.

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117 episodes
Bonus 27 Sep 2023

BONUS.Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. Leadership by Design.

Nobody is born a leader. Yet we seem to believe that there is a set of skills that will turn us into leadership perfection. Aga doesn't believe that one bit. This is why she wrote the book "Leadership by Design". It is a 12-week course in designing your personal leadership practice. In this bonus episode, Łukasz asks Aga about the reasons for writing such a book in the first place and about the change a book like this can inflict on the life of a leader.

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Episode 10 May 2022

S11.E10. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. OUTRO. Do It Your Own Way!

Season 11 of the Catching The Next Wave podcast was about doing. But, it turned out that doing is not just about putting something into the world, it is a much more nuanced concept to ponder including aspects like curiosity, open-mindedness, accountability, and much more. We started by distinguishing between thinking and doing only to arrive at a conclusion that one is impossible without the other. We hope you will enjoy that season much as we did.

00:42:30
Episode 10 May 2022

S11.E9. Andrew Lacanienta. Standing In Your Truth.

So many of us are afraid to be different and stand out of the pack. Our guest, Andrew Lacanienta, a senior strategist at George P Johnson Experience Marketing, thrives when he can share his uniqueness with others as long as what he does is truthful to himself. Andrew holds a PhD in Experience Design so we just couldn't avoid the topics of experience and transformational design, however, we tackle them from both the personal and the business context. We also talk about the importance of embodied experience that makes us connect between our minds and hearts.

01:11:46
Episode 10 May 2022

S11.E8. David Nebinski. The Personal Journey of Learning.

What do life-long learning and building communities have in common? David Nebinski, the host of the Portfolio Career podcast and a Community Operations Manager for the Chief of Staff Network Community says that communities are places for a social learning experience, which allows for creating a common language and stimulates accountability. We dive into the need for flexing your mind in order to deal with uncertainty and use generosity as a way to expand your worldview.

00:59:54
Episode 10 May 2022

S11.E7. Anna van der Aa. People Rock If You Let Them.

What can the mixture of curiosity and making things visual do to your collaborations? It is one of the many topics we discuss with our guest Anna van der Aa, a coach, researcher, visual facilitator, and songwriter. We discuss the notion of clean coaching using clean questions and we dive into evidence-based decision-making as a way to do things in an informed and wise way. And we try to figure out how people rock :)

00:59:41
Episode 10 May 2022

S11.E6. Daniel Owsiański. Embracing The Process.

How to define inventors of our times? This is a question, we try to answer with our guest, Daniel Owsiański, a VP of Technology at volt.io. We talk about the creativity of teams versus individuals, productivity versus effectiveness, and leadership versus management. We discuss the need for self-organizing teams and embracing the process, which is the only thing under our control.

00:54:45
Episode 10 May 2022

S11.E5. Alice Loy. Entrepreneurship Is a Land of Ambiguity.

Creative industries offer the potential for going global with local flavor, unlike any other scalable businesses that are alike everywhere you go says Alice Loy, a co-founder of the world's first accelerator for creatives called Creative Startups. Alice argues that we need a new economy based on new models of investing and she says that creatives need to be a part of that conversation because they have a crucial role in combining community and culture. We also discuss the good questions to ask and the need for ambiguity as a way to stimulate entrepreneurship.

00:45:48
Episode 10 May 2022

S11.E4. Michael F. Schein. Strategies versus Tactics.

What is hype and how mischiefs and propagandists can help you build it? Or, in other words, how do you get people to hear and follow you? This is one of the many topics we discuss with our guest Michael F. Schein -- a writer and the author of the book "The Hype Handbook". We also talk about thinning in bets, the future of social media, and the trap of following the rules others live by.

01:25:22
Episode 10 May 2022

S11.E3. Latifa Al-Khalifa. A Framework of Being a Learner.

Every opportunity is a learning opportunity, says our guest Latifa Al-Khalifa – a Social Entrepreneur, STEAM education advocate, and a founding member of Clever Play, a purpose-driven startup with a mission to inspire, educate and empower 1 million children in MENA STEAM skills by 2030. In this insightful conversation, we dive into the shape of the XXI century education (or rather learning). We discuss how it is no longer important what you know but what you do with what you know. And we talk that in order to do things you dream about you need to redefine yourself first.

00:49:32
Episode 10 May 2022

S11.E2. Theodore Edmonds. Asking Better Questions.

Culture can only be defined at an intersection of data argues our guest Theodore Edmonds – a creativity researcher, cultural futurist, artist, wellbeing entrepreneur, data analytics inventor, and a transdisciplinary academic. We talk about the third spaces, the different flavors of creativity, and Aristotelian notions of hedonism and eudaimonia and hope. We look for a definition of a new role of business and investment in the future world where not only financial gain is the growth motivator.

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Episode 3 May 2022

S11.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. INTRO. Do, Not Talk.

To do or not to do? This is the question for this 11th Season of the Catching The Next Wave podcast. We hope to investigate the difference (or the connection) between thinking and doing. We also hope to dig into understanding how our guests help themselves to put things out in the world and what helps them to do so. Stay tuned for the new season of Catching The Next Wave.

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Episode 11 Nov 2021

S10.E10. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. OUTRO. How Deep Is Your Rabbit Hole?

In the anniversary 10th season of the Catching The Next Wave podcast, we went down quite a few rabbit holes with our guests. Some of them were challenging, some were reflective, some were eye-opening. We discussed topics of abusing natural resources, cracking own productivity, dealing with change, learning, innovating, experiencing, and transforming. All of them are important for every one of us and the question is - how deep are there rabbit holes for you?

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Episode 11 Nov 2021

S10.E8. Mat Deurden. How to Become a Transformer?

Have you ever thought about whether for an experience to be memorable does it have to always be extraordinary or is ordinary also an option? This is one of the rabbit holes we visit together with our guest Mat Deurden, an Associate Professor of Experience Design and Management in the Marriott School of Business at Brigham Young University. We unpack a transformative process as tripping over the truth you never realized. We discuss the difference between a transformation that is a small "t" versus capital "T" transformation, dig into the role of storytelling in the process of transformation, and much more.

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Episode 11 Nov 2021

S10.E9. Sylvia Earle. The Nature of Nature.

Everything is connected much more than we have ever realised. We are dependent on the nature that surrounds us much more than nature is dependent on us, in fact. This is why we should stop perceiving nature as something to conquer and start seeing it as our life-support system, argues our amazing guest, dr Sylvia Earle, also known as "Her Deepness". We discuss the ways in which oceans and life that inhabits them are treated today and how they should be treated from now onward. We discuss tuna and octopuses, sharks, and oxygen production, and so much more in this conversation that has the power to stop you from ever eating fish again.

01:01:50
Episode 11 Nov 2021

S10.E7. James Wallman. The Era of Experientialism.

It is no longer enough for governments to measure GDP, they should finally use knowledge of sociology and psychology to figure out how to measure the quality of life. And a part of these metrics should be about the value of experiencing rather than possessing things. Together with James Wallman, the author of "Stuffocation" and "Time and how to spend it", and a co-founder of the World Experience Organization, we dig into the topic of how to measure experiences, and how to use these metrics to provoke organizations around the world to be more experiential. We wonder if it's possible to create an equivalent of a B-Corp certification and certification for experience and how it should differ with respect to the final solutions and culture. We also wonder how to capture the subjective assessment of experiences and turn it into a reliable guideline. And we dive into the meaning of boredom, the rabbit hole of creative work, and the idea of trying out our different selves.

01:21:20
Episode 11 Nov 2021

S10.E6. Gilbert Cockton. Wild Challenges, Not Wicked Problems.

Have you ever considered how being human-centered might not be a good idea? How any centricity is a wrong focus for design? With Gilbert Cockton, a professor emeritus from the Northumbria University and the University of Sunderland, we discuss the need for a big picture to be able to strategically move forward with any project. We talk about the design approach in the era of post-humanism, the agency of objects, and a fetish of rationality creeping into the design profession. We underline the importance of the studio culture with design critics as a way to keep on bringing good work to the world. And we wonder whether evaluation does a good job for forwarding motion or perhaps not really.

01:09:18
Episode 11 Nov 2021

S10.E5. Ruud Janssen. Horizons of Change.

The pandemic showed us that change is non-optional. But what remains to be figured out is how to make his change good and lasting. With our guest Ruud Janssen, the co-author of "Event Design Handbook" and "Design to Change" we discuss what it takes to implement change you wish for. We deliberate what is more important, process or outcome, and we look into events as pivotal moments for change. We also wonder whether it's possible to design for how people spend time at work.

01:10:12
Episode 11 Nov 2021

S10.E4. Greg Enriquez. You Can't Create Out of Fear.

Everyone can sing better, it's just a matter of the right training. With the world-famous vocal coach, Greg Enriquez, we talk about the strange instrument that is our voice. We talk about the unrealistic expectations technology raises for musicians and how it should be replaced with daring to try things that are tough early on. Greg points out how learning to sing is a never-ending journey rather than a destination and gives advice on how to effectively exercise your voice and also how to find a good singing teacher.

00:53:34
Episode 11 Nov 2021

S10.E3. Heather Chavin. Making Space for Your Creative Genius.

Have you ever considered that risk-taking is a muscle that needs to be regularly exercised? In this conversation with a productivity nerd, coach in Seth Godin's Akimbo community, and an entrepreneur at GoGoDone, Heather Chavin we talk about creating conditions to ship your work. We talk about how so many of us are obligers responding to the external rather than internal stimuli and why we need a powerful community to overcome that. We agree that it is important to mourn projects we say 'no' to but still, it is the only way to do what matters as trying harder doesn't quite work. We also discuss the importance of listening to our bodies and our brains as they are pretty clear about what is good for us at a given moment.

01:17:12
Episode 11 Nov 2021

S10.E2. Joy van Baren. The Unusual Way of Doing Business.

In order to face change straight up you can't do things the usual way. You need a new, unusual approach to doing business. In this conversation with Joy van Baren, the Growth Acceleration Director at Ordina, we discuss the importance of the right mindset, the new way of looking at risk as a risk of missed opportunity. We investigate how important is brutal honesty to stay innovative and how to create a safe place for it. We also wonder what the success rate is for innovative projects.

01:09:07
Episode 5 Nov 2021

S10.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. INTRO. Down The Rabbit Hole.

More than three years ago we jumped the rabbit hole of producing the Catching The Next Wave podcast. In this anniversary intro we share the kitchen view on how it all happens. We also introduce the theme of the 10th season - "Down the Rabbit Hole" and chat about the meaning of this statement for both of us. And, as usual, we unravel a few of the mamazing guests we lined up for you in this season.

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Bonus 22 Sep 2021

Bonus. Anthony Rocco & Pim Schachtschabel: The Sound of Curiosity

Anthony Rocco and Pim Schachtschabel, our great guests from previous seasons, decided to put their forces together to develop an online course that aims to awake curiosity in people. Together with Łukasz, we got a preview of this course live that got us grateful, confused, and more. Check it out to see what condition your curiosity is in.

01:04:42
Episode 1 Jun 2021

S9.E10. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. OUTRO. Becoming The Person You Want to Be.

As usual, our Season 9 guests at Catching The Next Wave podcast took us into directions we dared not to wander ourselves. We heard daring business and artistic stories, we discussed how to become more daring as a leader and as a person but above all we were taken for a roller-coaster ride to learn the amazing things they all undertook in their personal and professional lives.

00:36:14
Episode 1 Jun 2021

S9.E9. Paul Bulencea. Staying Wild.

What is the difference between transformative and experience design? Our guest, Paul Bulencea, compares it (after professor Martin Seligman) to the cosmetic versus curative treatment. Together we explore the transformative journey as a way to re-wild yourself, to reconnect with your true nature and your path. Using the example of the College of Extraordinary Experiences, Paul is a co-founder of, we define the difference between the safe and the brave space and chat about the importance of being brave on your way to personal discovery.

01:04:03
Episode 1 Jun 2021

S9.E8. Randa Taftaf. Hearing The Authentic Voices.

Born in the US and relocated to Syria at the age of 14, our guest Randa Taftaf found a way to combine the two so different cultures. She experienced the start of the was in Syria and then moved back to the US to start a publishing house that aims to create books for Arabic learners that are engaging and true to the cultural heritage of the Arabic world. In this conversation we explore with Randa how you can embrace diversity and live a humane experience. We also discuss the issues related to minority publishing - a challenge that is one of the steps to be addressed in our road to equality. Randa asked us to add a disclaimer to this episode. She wrote: "This is just my story and not the story of other Syrians. So many Syrians have had a journey that was far worse than mine which is one of the reasons why I haven't been outspoken about my experience." We deeply appreciate Randa's openness to share her story with us. Thank you!

01:03:02
Episode 1 Jun 2021

S9.E7. Jericca Cleland. Listen Deeply.

Our lives are interconnected with nature. Our art is too. With our returning guest, Jericca Cleland, an incredible filmmaker, we talk about the notion of meaningful entertainment and how it can redefine our relationship with the world. We dig into the reasoning of why we all are so wired to storytelling and what authentic storytelling is about. These are only a few themes we explore in this amazing conversation.

01:11:26
Episode 1 Jun 2021

S9.E6. Lukas Cabalka. Looking for Harmony Through Contrast.

The cultures we originate from carry inspiration that never ends - in food, in dance, in singing, in writing, in symbols, you name it. With our guest, Lukas Cabalka - artistic director and founder of Creativiva, we talk about creating entertainment that's memorable and meaningful. We explore the future of the entertainment world through mixing genres and coming out of the theaters and closed scenes back on the streets. We try to figure out where inspiration comes from and how cooking is a great expression of someone's attitude towards art.

00:56:44
Episode 1 Jun 2021

S9.E5. Kasia Sperczyńska-Santi. Never Going After Easy.

Can you imagine yourself standing in front of a 30 000 audience singing "I feel pretty"? Our guest, Kasia Santi-Sperczyńska doesn't have to anymore. Nor does she have to be fearful of singing on the stages such as Carnegie Hall and Banquet Hall of Hotel Plaza in NYC. How did a tiny girl from a tiny Polish village make it happen? We dissect the notion of bravery being true to yourself and allowing your inner child to guide you.

00:56:55
Episode 1 Jun 2021

S9. E4. Brent Lamphier. Show Up for Others.

What is the posture that makes others follow you? Why are questions so crucial? What can you do to develop your emotional intelligence? What does sonder mean? How is vulnerability helping your leadership? These are only a few of all the questions we investigated with our guest, Brent Lamphier, a seasoned AltMBA coach and a creator of the EQmethod workshop, where you will practice skill building, deep listening, and connection.

01:14:48
Episode 1 Jun 2021

S9.E3. Phillip Collins. Work With What Is.

Leadership is like joga. You are never fully trained, there is always more to learn. So you go and exercise it every day. We unpack this daily exercise with our guest Phillip Collins, a Global Leadership Coach, heading a team of internationally based coaches and facilitators at Action and Theory. We discuss how to embrace risk, minimise waste and create with what is - the three elements Phil applies both to his professional work and his cooking. And we dig into the need for conscious reflection as a way to progress with your path towards leadership.

01:00:40
Episode 1 Jun 2021

S9.E2. Jacek Majewski & Mikołaj Molenda. Constant Exploration.

In the drive to endlessly fit their curiosity and explore forever new possibilities, our guests Jacek Majewski and Mikołaj Molenda, the co-CEOs at tylko.com, did more daring things than you might imagine. They share some of these stories with us while sharing their perspective on the responsibility of businesses to change their practices to become more responsible and sustainable.

00:56:27
Episode 27 May 2021

S9.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. INTRO. How Big Is Your Comfort Zone?

The theme for Season 9 of the Catching The Next Wave podcast seems to have chosen itself. It is: DARING and with it we hope to explore the different facets of what daring means in the professional and private lives of our guests. We also want to see how you could become more daring with your endeavors as you decide to leave your comfort zone and explore the unknown.

00:13:30
Episode 4 Feb 2021

S8.E10. OUTRO. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. The Logic of Intuition.

This is probably the first season in history that generated more questions than answers for us. It has turned out that intuition is a complex and multifaceted term, and that you can look at it from different perspectives: cognitive, cultural, professional, and more. One thing that stayed with us is that intuition is not something opposite to logic (on the contrary) and that it is worthwhile to become good friends with it as it helps us reach out to the depth of our inner wisdom.

00:41:46
Episode 4 Feb 2021

S8.E9. Carola Verschoor. What Is The Most Provocative Question to Ask?

Is change good? What does growth mean? When do you need a revolution and when evolution is what you require? Why should you reach out to the edges of your comfort zone? Where lies the difference between possibility and opportunity? You can get immersed in these subjects and many more in our conversation with Carola Verschoor, the author of "Change ahead" and the founder and chief creative at Transformational Studio.

01:15:07
Episode 4 Feb 2021

S8.E8. Keren Tsuk. The Ability to Hold Tension.

Why do 21st-century leaders need dialogue spaces? How important is daring to be vulnerable? What are the boundaries for? Is leadership a role or a state of mind? Where lies the difference between the being mode or doing mode? Is busy the new stupidity? Should we be egoless as leaders? These are just a few topics that we tackle with our guest, Keren Tsuk, a founder and the CEO of Wisdomtolead, an organisational consulting firm specializing in helping executives find their inner wisdom and maximize their leadership potential through mindfulness.

01:02:05
Episode 4 Feb 2021

S8.E7. Bernt Meerbeek. Balancing Intuition With Data

Is data and testing always the best path? Or is intuition sometimes helpful in making design decisions? We talk about it with Bernt Meerbeeek, the Product Owner for IoT solutions and the R&D Manager for UX and Living Labs at Signify. We chat about personality in robotic vacuum cleaners, a cat that speaks human and whether people are willing to give away their control to be emerged into the Internet of Things. We also talk about how being a researcher helps to be an intuitive manager for innovation teams.

00:56:11
Episode 4 Feb 2021

S8.E6. Yuan Wang. Heart To Hand.

How to embrace diversity in a meaningful way? What is the role of a leader in that process? Why are women leaving the workforce so frequently these days? What does it mean to cultivate belonging? Where does self-reflection come into the picture? These are a few topics we discuss with our guest, Yuan Wang, a leadership coach for creative professionals.

00:52:42
Episode 4 Feb 2021

S8.E5. Katie Zazenski. There Is No One Right Answer.

Is art individual or collaborative? Is it neutral or political? What does it mean to truly be in the world? How does empathy fit into it all? Why is it easier to listen to male than female intuition? These and many more topics we chat about with Kathryn Zazenski, a visual artist and a director of an independent artist space in Warsaw: Stroboskop.

00:58:31
Episode 4 Feb 2021

S8.E4. Ann Morgan. Your Degree of Lightness.

How long should you wait before beginning to write your book? This and many other questions we discuss with the amazing writer Ann Morgan, the author of "The World Between Two Covers" and "Besides Myself". We delve into the world of creative writing, inspiration, process, dedication, and post-publication blues. And we discover what intuition means for a writer.

01:00:34
Episode 4 Feb 2021

S8.E3. Gunnar de Jong. Going After The Harder Choice.

Is there a profession called a "genius"? What can we learn from Leonardo da Vinci about curiosity? How is theater evolving? What role do emotions play in collaboration? Are there better ways for life-long learning? These are the things we dive into with our amazing guest, Gunnar de Jong — an actor, facilitator, and entrepreneur.

01:08:23
Episode 4 Feb 2021

S8.E2. Dawid Wiener. Constructing The World Around Us.

Is intuition fast or slow? Is it about making new connections or adapting the existing knowledge? How does wisdom fit into the picture? Is there a connection with cognitive biases? Is our anticipatory brain devoting us from free will? These and many more topics we touch upon in the conversation with Dawid Wiener: a psychiatrist, a doctor of philosophy, a cognitive scientist, a teacher of the psychology of design, and an entrepreneur.

00:56:25
Episode 29 Jan 2021

S8.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. INTRO. How to Feed Your Intuition?

We seem not to be quite educated to listen to our intuition these days. It might be our schooling system, the way the business world operates or perhaps that fact that because we don't know how intuition works, we are slightly scared of it. In this 8th season of the Catching The Next Wave podcast the hosts, Aga and Łukasz Szóstek, aim to catch the intuitive bull by its horns and go to figure out what is intuition, and whether it's worthwhile to listen to it or not.

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Bonus 6 Oct 2020

BONUS. Aga Szóstek. How to Build Your Unique Experience Strategy?

Our co-host, Aga, has published a book on September 10th 2020. The book is a guide on how to create and implement a powerful experience strategy that will help your organization stand out on the market. In this conversation between both hosts, Aga explains how it is time for the next step in thinking about customer experience and what are the ingredients of creating an experience strategy that will truly make you be loved by your customers.

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Episode 22 Sep 2020

S7.E10. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. OUTRO. A Way Forward.

Season 7 of Catching The Next Wave podcast was about change. We attempted to look at it from the personal, organizational and global perspectives. While you might think that there aren't many common threads, we managed to find quite a few. Join us to listen to another set of eight amazing conversations with fantastic guests from the domains of social and behavioral change, tourism, finances and organizational development.

00:32:11
Episode 22 Sep 2020

S7.E9. Audrey Scott & Dan Noll. The Meaning of Being Human.

Where lies the difference between tourism and travel? What does it mean to get out of the comfort zone? We investigate the notions of sustainable tourism, transformational travel and resilience in this great conversation with Audrey Scott and Daniel Noll, writers, storytellers and propagators of conscious adventures into our beautiful world. We touch, among many other topics, upon the difference between a genuine experience versus commoditization of holiday time and also the importance of language to explain what sustainable travel is all about to the different people potentially interested in it.

01:27:48
Episode 22 Sep 2020

S7.E8. Amanda Gigler. Permaculture Approach to Change.

What is the difference between equality and justice? What are the best places to start change? These are a few topics we touch upon with our guest Amanda Gigler who is leading the development of Mama Cash (the feminist non-profit fund from Amsterdam) next 10 year strategic guide. We dive into the differences between feminism, activism and social change and discuss (among other things) the importance of creating narrative for change.

00:46:57
Episode 22 Sep 2020

S7.E7. Darek Kędziora. The Big Wave of Global Financial Change.

With our guest, the amazing bond investment expert, Darek Kędziora we dive into the world of financial change that is swiping the world today. Darek shares his opinions (strictly personal and in no way any sort of advice) about how the pandemic impacts current geopolitics and how it is reflected in the world of finance. We touch upon the global trends in technologies, the power changes and also the role of China in reshaping our world. It's not all dark though - Darek convincingly talks about some things that can have a huge positive impact on our future.

00:58:10
Episode 22 Sep 2020

S7.E6. Kim Korn. The Principles of the Regenerative Management.

Managing practices of today are still deeply rooted in the industrial era. But there is a new way emerging called: regenerative management. Our guest, Kim Korn (in collaboration with our other guest Joe Pine) are on the mission to make this new way become the new standard for managing organizations. Kim shares with us the foundational ideas for regenerative managing practices that aim to help your organization grow rather than just stay focused on self-optimization.

00:59:40
Episode 22 Sep 2020

S7.E5. Milan Guenther. The Desired Future State of Your Enterprise

Can you undergo a process of transformation and keep on innovating? Are opportunities or options the same as solutions? With our guest, Milan Ghuenter, the author of the book "Intersection" and the founder of the Enterprise Architecture Association, we talk about the change in the context of mature organizations. We discuss the interplay between brand perception, customer experience and infrastructure architecture with an aim to find the big picture that helps you take the best decision of what to invest in next.

01:02:43
Episode 22 Sep 2020

S7.E4. Michael Liehmann. The Human Moment.

Let's be honest - change is tough. First we tend to experience denial, then anger. Once we come to terms that change is necessary and start following it, soon we find ourselves in the dip, the valley of tears. With our guest, Michael Liehmann, a change consultant, we explore the phases of change, its antecedents and ways to make it last in your life and in your org.

00:56:34
Episode 22 Sep 2020

S7.E3. April Mills. Do You See Your Invisible Box?

The pandemic has shown us that what seemed impossible is actually quite possible after all. With our amazing guest, April K. Mills, an author and a change agent, we discuss the challenges of progressing rather than regressing with the change that started happening around us. We discuss the importance of not being held accountable for trying to change things but above all the importance of trust in building agency to create meaningful change.

01:13:41
Episode 22 Sep 2020

S7.E2. Natalia Romero Herrera. Self-Experimentation for Change.

Is behavior change possible? Sure thing, it is but under certain conditions. With Natalia Romero Herrera, an associate professor from Delft University of Technology, we discuss how necessary it is to embed behavior change in values and beliefs. We dig into the topic of self-judgement, self-experimentation and personal storytelling as one of the most crucial tools to inspire change in people.

00:50:21
Episode 17 Sep 2020

S7.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. INTRO. The Three Layers of Change.

Year 2020 has brought an unprecedented change to the world as we knew it: change that we might have not been quite ready to embrace. In this seventh season of Catching The Next Wave podcast we decided to embark on a journey to understand what change means, what are the necessary conditions for it to happen and how it can be successfully implemented. We chose to look at it from three perspectives: the perspective of personal development, the one of organizational transformation and finally from the edge of introducing global change to the way people think. We hope to inspire you to change in the ways that help this new world we face be the one we all would like to live in.

00:21:44
Bonus 3 Sep 2020

BONUS: Monika Jiang & Tim Leberecht. The Great Wave of the Beautiful Business.

In the age of machines business needs more romanticism. In this bonus episode we talk to Tim Leberecht, an author of "The Business Romantic" and the co-founder of the Business Romantic Society and Monika Jiang, the head of content and community at the Society about the need for radical change in the way business is conducted today. We also discuss their unique global conference The Great Wave, a networked event full of flavor of secret society with a ton of romanticism, of course.

01:17:17
Episode 14 May 2020

S6.E9. David Millen. The Immediacy of Delivering Something Valuable.

Technological development should matter and should solve real problems, shouldn't it? In this insightful conversation with David Millen, a Senior Manager of Design Research at IBM Watson Health and an ACM Distinguished Scientist, we dive into the topics of purposeful innovation, developing organisational culture that is ready to take risks and the need for diverse teams with common language. David discusses how IBM is in a very different business it used to be and how any organisation needs to be able to morph over time. Finally, we get into futures thinking and its value as a tool to rehearse scenarios, so you've seen some of them before as fiction when you face them in reality.

01:15:44
Episode 14 May 2020

S6.E8. Ton Kalker. Making Possible What Wasn't Possible Before.

Can you get too much attention to innovation? In this insightful conversation with Ton Kalker, the CTO at Xperi and an IEEE Fellow we dive into the aspects of predictability, risk taking and trust, and their relationship with radical innovation. We discuss the role of an innovation-focused CTO and also chat about what are the aspects worthwhile considering if you think of doing innovation that matters.

01:08:20
Episode 14 May 2020

S6.E7. Christoph Bartneck. The Impact On The World.

Does scientific research equal innovation? Is there at least a common denominator? In an insightful conversation with Christoph Bartneck, a professor of human-robot interaction at Canterbury University in Christchurch, New Zealand, we discuss the actual need for constant progress and whether there is anything truly new "under the sun". We talk about robots and their interactions with humans and also about innovation being about deliberate changes in our immediate surroundings to make our lives better. We, finally, look into the notion of whether "better" means the immediate impact in a form of instant gratification or an impact over time that truly changes the world for the better.

01:23:08
Episode 14 May 2020

S6.E6. Ralph Talmont. Turning The Ship Around.

Many organisations think they innovate, but do they really? Ralph Talmont, the photographer, writer and creator, talks about the power of imagination to change your mindset towards true meaningful and, above all, ethical innovation. We discuss the importance of taking into account the environmental costs of doing business and we talk about the differences between easy innovation and the difficult one, one that aims at the long-term impact on the world rather than being the selfish drive for biggest profit. We also consider stealing creative processes from artists as a way to start thinking differently.

00:53:02
Episode 14 May 2020

S6.E5. Jens Heitland. The Mindset of Innovation.

Innovation takes time. You can only see its effects over time, so you need to step back and see a bigger picture. How to do so? In the conversation with Jens Heitland, a former Head of Innovation at IKEA Centres and now a business innovation designer at Fjord, we investigate how to create a powerful innovation team and what its role is in your organisation (and it is not one to create more innovation). We discuss the criticality of the innovation mindset and the importance of having a powerful North Star to ensure you are going in the same direction. We also talk about the need to get your hands dirty (not only on the operational level but also in the executive one) and the importance of good measurement.

00:56:18
Episode 14 May 2020

S6.E4. Steven Thomas. Are You an Innovator or a Commentator?

Big breakthroughs are, in fact, a series of incremental steps. If you have one, it means that you were patient enough and humble enough to stick to your course. With Steve Thomas, an Innovation Director at JPI Media, we dive into the ways to set up your innovation machine (no matter whether you are a startup or a mature organisation). We discuss the importance of empathy not only towards the customers but also towards the internal stakeholders whose necks are on the line. We also talk that you can't predict innovation but you can enable for it but in order to do so you need to have a "punk mentality", a rebellious spirit informed by strong passion and purpose to become a champion of innovation.

00:58:39
Episode 14 May 2020

S6.E3. Jessica Mignone. The Courage To Be Different.

If you are not different (and sometimes even disliked) you won't be noticed. And it also means that most likely you don't innovate. With Jessica Mignone, a Principal Product Designer at Intuit (and a former UX Designer at Google), we discuss innovation from the perspective of constant improvement, or, in other words, we say that: going back to the stuff we built and making it better - this is innovation. We note that people innovate their entire lives anyway, and they are not even aware of that. And we also talk about the importance of 20% projects as creative outlets for smart people.

01:27:15
Episode 14 May 2020

S6.S2. Joe Pine. If You Are Sure of Success, You Are Not Innovating.

Innovation is only truly innovation when it is put on the market and validated with customers. With our esteemed guest, Joe Pine, the author of (among many others) "The Experience Economy", we investigate the innovation space for experience design. We dig into the value of long-term thinking and the importance of considering the employee experience next to staging the experiences for customers. We tap into a concept of regenerative management and into the importance of underpromising to create powerful word-of-mouth. Please note that this episode was recorded before the outbreak of the coronavirus — some of the comments refer to the situation before the pandemic.

01:01:53
Episode 12 May 2020

S6.E10.Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. OUTRO. Staying Curious.

Is there a universal definition of innovation? It seems there isn't. But there are quite a few ingredients that seem universal such as purpose, long-term vision, diverse team, rebel spirit, trust and protection of a boss who is willing to be patient. Once again our guests expand our worldview and make us rethink the concept we thought we had figured out. And what we conclude is this. If you want to be truly innovative you need to set your mind on a purpose that goes beyond your bottom line and stay curious to remain sensitive to the way the world changes around you.

00:34:48
Episode 5 May 2020

S6.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. The Multiple Facets of Innovation.

Innovation — do we know what we talk about? Is it something business-related or perhaps it links to academia? Is it about the insight or the outcome? And what does trivial mean in this context? Or maybe innovation is like love — everybody talks about it but nobody has seen it… We are setting out to discover that in Season 6.

00:27:40
Episode 14 Jan 2020

S5.E10. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek: OUTRO. The World of Magic

When we started this season about magic, we had no clue where it could take us. Actually, we had little clue of what magic meant in the first place. With our guests of Season 5 we had the great pleasure to look at magic from the perspective of an artist, designer, teacher, leader, and magician. And you might be surprised how much of it can be applied to both our personal and professional lives. We hope you will enjoy it as much as we did.

00:33:02
Episode 14 Jan 2020

S5.E9. Ferdinando Buscema: Magic and Wonder in the Age of Technology.

Is there a place for "magic" today, besides the theatrical dimension and the entertainment industry? Yes, there is! In our conversation, Ferdinando Buscema—a professional "Magic Experience Designer"—takes us on the journey of wonder, kindness and luck. We explore about how magic relates to the world of business, and what modern leaders can learn from the Archetype of the Magician.

01:10:51
Episode 14 Jan 2020

S5.E8. Malcolm Campbell: There Are More Than Two Options

There are always more than two options. In the way we see the world. In the way we collaborate. And in the way in which we hope to impact culture. Malcolm Campbell, an executive director of R&D labs at Canon Medical Systems, talks about how spirituality and science can create magic of desired culture through the narratives that people share.

01:04:57
Episode 14 Jan 2020

S5.E7. Ariel Orah & Rasmus Stride: The Art of Artpreneurship

Artists today have no other way but learn to become entrepreneurs. In a conversation with Rasmus Stride and Ariel Orah we investigate the challenges artists face in order to do their art. We also dig into the topics of collaboration and praise embracing diversity as a path to become an inspirational leader.

00:44:00
Episode 14 Jan 2020

S5.E6. Anthony Rocco: Balance Is Not a Static State

Secret societies, immersive experiences - where is the magic in there? Together with Anthony Rocco - an immersive experience designer and one of the faces behind the Latitude Society in San Francisco, we unpack the magic of being together as a group that agree on certain rules and believe in a certain reality that leads to creation of a magic circle where new patterns of behavior can be formed.

01:10:47
Episode 14 Jan 2020

S5.S5. Pim Schachtschabel: Being at Awe With The World

Magic is a part of us. Pim Schachtschabel, a bespoke experience architect of magic and founder of one of the world's best escape rooms shares his perspective on how magic is the way we see the world. How Magic can be a way of thinking and perceiving what is happening around us. He shares his insights on designing storylines in escape rooms and the experiential workshops he secretly co-creates.

00:54:45
Episode 14 Jan 2020

S5.E4. Joana Mao: Finding Your Purpose

What propels you to do more? What brings you satisfaction in life? Joana Mao, a strategic designer and the author of the Clear Purpose Framework convinces us that a way to live a fulfilling life is to find your deeper purpose: the purpose that goes beyond your own goals and desires. Once this purpose is surfaced the magic of inner alignment will happen.

00:49:12
Episode 14 Jan 2020

S5.E3. Anna Pohlmeyer: Form and Function Follow Experience

Experiences are something we remember for a long time. Much longer than we remember things. How do design for them? With Anna Pohlmeyer, the assistant professor at the Institute for Happiness at Delft University of Technology, we talk about the challenges behind hedonic adaptation, designing for values and virtues. And we also consider designing for inefficiency as a way to engage people on a new, deeper level than it usually happens.

00:49:02
Episode 14 Jan 2020

S5.E2. David Bassuk: The Dangers of Magical Thinking

What is magic? Professor David Bassuk from Purchase College NYC returns to our podcast to discuss whether magic is more of a mindset or rather a toolbox. He digs into the danger of magical thinking as a trap for avoiding the current problems we should be addressing.

01:12:44
Episode 9 Jan 2020

S5.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek: INTRO - The Business of Magic.

Can magic have anything to do with business and leadership? What is magic for in the first place? Why would we even discuss it? Aga and Łukasz look at the different perspectives of magic and its applicability in work and life.

00:18:35
Bonus 17 Dec 2019

XMAS BONUS - LIVE. Rachel Uwa, Katja Wessling: Magic (and Reality) of Leading Creative Life.

So many of us dream about living a creative life. But isn't it just fantasy? In our first ever live conversation with Rachel Uwa and Katja Wessling we investigate the joy but also the difficulties of choosing to become an independent creative.

00:44:30
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E10. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. OUTRO: Common Sense Or Healthy Judgement?

This season showed us the huge difference between the notion of the English phrase: common sense and its Polish version: healthy judgment. This realization made a great twist on all our conversations where we tried to investigate both these expressions. We dived into the world of measures, decision-making, changing minds, agile, design and even music to better understand whether common sense is as common as it should be. Or perhaps common sense shouldn't be as common as you might think after all...

00:49:58
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E9. Gus Power. Do Things You Can't Describe Rather Than Describe Things You Can't Do.

There is plenty of stuff that should be common sense but it isn't. In this episode, Gus Power rants about many of such things: from abusing agile principles, through pretending to be aligned, to the misjudgments that stem from the ladder of inference. We tap into the topics of employee motivation, the innovation trap and also the phenomenon of weak consensus every organization on this planet should be aware of. You are up for a ride with this conversation.

01:38:09
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E8. Michelle Florendo. Good Decision Taking Is a Skill.

So many of us find decision taking really hard. But does it have to be this way? In our conversation with Michelle Florendo, the decision engineer, we discover the three core elements of decision taking. But most of all we both realize that decision taking process is something very different from what is the outcome of that decision.

00:57:47
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E7. Tom Gilb. Everything Can (and Should) Be Measured.

Many companies these days only vaguely know what they aim for. Their visions are in-concrete and difficult to execute on. In this episode we talk to Tom Gilb, the creator of the Evolutionary Development (EVO) about his impact on the way different companies (and even countries) around the world can improve their performance based on focused and tailored measurements. For those, who are curious: EVO is a software development method that is based on incremental product releases, frequent delivery, and dynamic plans and processes.

01:03:14
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E6. Wagner Barbosa. You Can Sing - Even If You Don't Believe It's True.

Singing might seem like magic to so many of you. But is it really the case? In this conversation with the Brazilian musician and the signing teacher, Wagner Barbosa, we talk about the mechanics of the vocal tract, what does rhythm do to our brain and why is positive reinforcement so utterly crucial if you want to learn how to sing. We also hear the story of training 30 kids to sing the national anthem at the Olympic Games - can you imagine that?

01:00:30
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E5. Peter Droste. The Power of Apprenticeship.

Yeah, we all go to school and learn stuff. But is it the best way to become a professional? For centuries there was another way: an apprenticeship. Peter Droste, a self-thought experience designer from New York, talks about his personal path to become who he is today. He explores what experience design means, how you can test the limits of what's possible and how it was to learn making steaks from a vegetarian chef.

00:57:14
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E4. Elena Foggiato. Focusing On The 1% That You Control.

We all have self-sabotaging mechanisms that stop us reaching our full potential. Elena Foggiato, an amazing coach from Milan, Italy, talks about focusing on the things we can change and also about being present with our lives. She also explains how improvisation is this amazing tool any of us can use to find new ways of interacting with others.

00:59:11
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E3. Piotr Jegier. Your Data Is Not Going To Take Decisions For You.

Is Big Data able to take decisions for us, humans? In this episode, we talk to the Big Data expert from nPowered, Piotr Jegier about the traps that many of us will encounter as we start to rely more any more on data. We dive into the topic of cognitive biases and try to understand in what domains humans still can't be replaced by AI.

01:08:44
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E2. David Straker. Changing Minds Is a Daily Practice.

What do we talk about when we talk about common sense? David Straker, the author of the book "Changing minds" gives a great definition of what common sense truly means. He points out at the traps of our System 1 thinking when it comes to considering something to be common sense. Then we chat about the role of empathy in influencing people, what trust means in the interpersonal relationships and how crucial it is to be able to change our own minds before we attempt to change the minds of others.

01:05:53
Episode 1 Oct 2019

S4.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. INTRO: Is Common Sense Common at All?

Sometimes we all ask ourselves this very question: is common sense all that common? In this fourth season of the Catching The Next Wave podcast we hope to investigate what common sense really means and whether it is something that should be generally popular. Or perhaps not really...

00:23:03
Episode 25 Apr 2019

S3.E10. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. OUTRO: Are You Crossing Boundaries Or Are You Sitting Across Them?

Once again we are standing corrected - whatever we imagined crossing the borders means, there is so much more to consider. We were talking about starting the transformational journey, crossing borders slowly or quickly, sitting in the fences and also about the certain borders that needn't be crossed. We looked at ways to let go of your own image of yourself and be happy about the choices you've made. We investigated crossing borders in the personal and professional domains tackling the forever elusive topic of business innovation. There were even a few personal borders we crossed ourselves when recording this very season :) We hope you will have a lot of joy listening to it!

00:53:07
Episode 25 Apr 2019

S3.E9. Clara Otero. The Organizational Structure For Innovation.

Staying innovative is the ultimate challenge for every organization today. Clara Otero, a Director of Systems Innovations for NXP's Automotive Business Unit, talks about how to structure innovation so that the organization works on both the long-term as well as the short-term vision for product development. We talk about the need for collaboration to create new solutions. We also discuss how to lead a happy and fulfilled life by owning the choices you make.

00:56:29
Episode 25 Apr 2019

S3.E8. Alex Grots. Design As Craft Versus Design As a Way of Thinking.

How does living a nomadic life change your perspective about owning stuff? Together with the world-wide known innovator Alex Grots we explore the importance of rituals, the history of Design Thinking at IDEO and the value of Design Thinking workshops. We also chat about the need to keep the unique organizational culture when your start-up is growing.

01:01:37
Episode 25 Apr 2019

S3.E7. John-Paul Bichard. The Stories Inside The Forensic Space.

The realization of your own mortality must impact the art you do. John-Paul talks about his path as an artist early touched by cancer. He takes us into the world of interactive video installations, game design and provocation. We chat about the burlesque theater as an ultimate space for women to be themselves to the core. And we look into the third gender: the choice of neither being a female or male but being both.

01:09:33
Episode 25 Apr 2019

S3.E6. Flemming Ottsen. The Art of Letting Go.

Have you ever imagined yourself being a guest at the Mad Hatter tea party from Alice in Wonderland? Our guest, Flemming Ottsen, can make it a reality. In this conversation we talk about switching from engineering and product management to performance. We explore the world of immersive theater, the importance of meditation and the ego work. We also cross a border we never imagined to cross on this podcast - we discuss the potential positive impact of psychedelics.

01:01:54
Episode 25 Apr 2019

S3.E5. John Law. Exploring The Zone.

Crossing borders is often considered as a metaphor. But it can be both physical and metaphorical too. John Law explains the idea of crossing over to the zone as a way to stretch your imagination and see the world (especially the familiar world) with new eyes. Next to it, John discusses the meaning of anarchy in today's world, tells the stories behind some of the neons to be shown at his upcoming exhibition and once more takes us once more to the world of immersive events.

01:15:44
Episode 25 Apr 2019

S3.E4. David Bassuk. The Ultimate Way of Engaging The Audience.

Have you ever thought why does the traditional advertisement never work anymore? And even further - is there a way to make it work again? In this incredible conversation with David Bassuk - the performance professor at the Purchase College in NYC, we investigate the world of transmedia, gameplay and immersiveness as the future of engaging with the audience before, during and after an event or service launch. Last but not least, we look into how theater and play has changed over time and deliberate about its future.

01:06:27
Episode 25 Apr 2019

S3.E3. Elena Rodriguez Blanco. Social Impact Can Be Scaled Bottom Up.

Have you ever considered beach clean-up as a part of your holidays? Elena Rodriguez Blanco talks about responsible tourism, local social impact and transformational experience design. We discuss the dangers of burnout and the importance of mindfulness. We also dig into the world of female entrepreneurship and the challenges that can be found there.

00:46:00
Episode 25 Apr 2019

S3.E2. Seth Godin. To Leap Is a Black and White Choice.

Have you ever considered what would you do if it was your last day on Earth? Together with Seth we explore the notion of excellence, good-enoughism and status. We discuss the importance of having time every day for creativity and reflection. And we look into the future of democracy, intellectual property and new artistic expressions.

00:36:20
Episode 15 Apr 2019

S3.E1. Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. INTRO: What Do We Think We Talk About When We Talk About Crossing Boundaries?

Season 2 made us aware that in order to feel empowered for transformation we need to cross some borders or boundaries. But what does it mean to cross one? How does it feel? Is it one big leap or a thousand little steps? In Season 3 we hope to explore the notion of crossing boundaries from the perspectives of leaders, designers, artists and performers. We begin with this question in mind: do we truly know what we talk about when we talk about crossing boundaries? And we hope to stand corrected :)

00:23:07
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E10. OUTRO: Aga & Łukasz Szóstek. Empowerment Begins With You

As Season 2 of the Catching The Next Wave podcast comes to an end, we attempted to untangle what empowerment means based on the fascinating stories our guests shared with us over the last few months. So, what is empowerment? It is the strength of self-permission? It seems like the right place to start.

00:30:58
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E9. Petter Abrahamsen. An Ultimate Goal Of Building a Team.

As almost nothing significant can be achieved individually anymore today collaboration is the front and center of challenges the modern companies face. Petter Abrahamsen, the former commander of the Norwegian Navy, talks about motivations and the methods of building teams in the military world. He also shares his thoughts of the ingredients necessary to make empowerment become a reality rather than only round words.

00:56:07
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E8. Ask Agger. Playfulness Builds Trust.

The traditional leadership style is getting old for the new times we live in. So, what can the leaders of today do to stay relevant and keep up with the new generations of people who don't want to be ruled by command and control bosses? Why would the leaders even want to change their style? Style that made them so successful for so many years? Ask Agger, the partner and the Change Agency Workz and the author of " The 3rd Generation of Storytelling" tells about the power of playfulness and games to teach leaders whya nd how to switch from the old ways to the new.

01:00:47
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E7. April Mills. Dogmatically Planning To Be As Agile As Possible.

Change in many organizations is the new constant. There problem is though - people are not happy about it. April Mills, the author of "Everyone is a change agent" and a perpetual change agent herself, explains ways in which a lasting change can be constructed. She draws from her experience as an engineer at the nuclear navy shipyard and from Intel, where she is bringing change about today.

00:52:54
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E6. Mel Lang. Empathy And Curiosity Before Everything Else.

Finding a successful way to run a team, especially in the world of agile, is like fining a golden egg. Mel Lang, an amazing agile coach herself, shares secrets of what being a good agile coach is all about. She talks about her path from an interactive agency to becoming a cook and explains how this adventure changed her perspective on running good teams. And for those interested, she also shares her tricks to change bad habits for good ones.

01:04:24
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E5. Scott Perry. Creativity Is Everywhere.

Everybody is creative, right? Why don't we see it more often then? Scott Perry, a musician and an author of "Endeavor" and "The Stoic Creative" talks about the internal battles we all go through to release our creativity. He shares ways to overcome your resistance to become a person you always wanted to be.

00:54:05
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E4. Adam Lindstrom. Reshaping the future of education.

Education needs to change to enable the next generations to become ready to take up the challenges they are going to face in their adult lives. Adam Lindstrom, the educator from New Jersey shares his approach to changing the education and empowering it through technology to make his school ready for the future.

00:45:34
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E3. Scott Gould. Powering Engagement.

Church has spent two millennia finding ways to motivate, engage and empower people. Scott Gould, the author of "The Shape of Engagement", shares with us his definitions of what engagement means and tells an absolutely fascinating story of how church designs his ways to build an ultimate engagement.

01:03:11
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E2. John Law. The Secret Life Of Secret Societies.

There are ways to empower that are not as obvious. That are based on becoming part of a group that gives you the space and the legitimacy to try things out. Things you might never dare to try outside of this secret world. John Law, the co-founder of the Burning Man festival, talks about his life as a member of secret societies, about generosity, morality and permission to be yourself. As much yourself as you can bare.

00:57:11
Episode 16 Jan 2019

S2.E1. INTRO: Aga Szóstek & Werner Puchert. Empowerement Is The Tool For Trasformation.

Season 1 of the Catching The Next Wave podcast turned out to be about transformation. But, in order, to go through any transformation you need to feel empowered to do so. The hosts Aga and Werner share their initial thoughts of what empowerment is while getting ready to shoot the second season which aims to help them dig deeper into the notion of empowerment.

00:08:52
Bonus 22 Dec 2018

XMAS BONUS. Alex Di Palma. How To Make a Ruckus Through Podcasting?

Is live content better than edited one? Should you publish weekly or by season? What sticks in audio and what doesn't? ...and many other insights on building audio experiences through podcasting.

00:41:31
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E10. Aga Szóstek & Werner Puchert. OUTRO: Stepping Into The World of Transformational Design.

In the world of transformational design, we create the narratives which define how we live our lives. The role of design is to enable the positive change to happen. To facilitate and to coach it. But ultimately the work needs to be done by the users. By each of us. The role of business and design is to responsibly accommodate us once we are ready to take the first steps. To leap. To become an artist.

00:33:47
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E9. Kelli Wood. Everybody Is an Artist.

Transformation is like an onion - it has many layers. It's essential that any work centring on Transformational Design is rooted within our humanity. Kelli Wood, provost of the Seth Godin's AltMBA and artist behind LittleBigWords, talks about being an artist, finding meaning and living up to your true potential.

00:40:27
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E8. Andy Sontag. Organizational Change Is Built by Combining Customer- Employee- and Branding Experience.

Experience can be a lifestyle. It has the potential to build a valuable futureproof business. Andy Sontag, the Experience Design program manager at Kaos Pilots in Denmark, talks about meaning, change by design and the inspiration from the arts.

00:26:20
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E7. Marc Hassenzahl. Friction Is Good.

Have you ever thought what responsibility means with respect to experience design? How technology might be appropriated for good or for evil? Marc Hassenzahl, experience design professor at Siegen University in Germany, talks about the need for 'troubles and secrets', provocation and the effortful design.

00:58:58
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E6. Victor Milton van Doorn. Mystery Adventures Help You Find Your Superpowers.

Mystery adventures can help us see our superpowers. Victor Milton van Doorn, the well-known Dutch escape room designer and a co-founder at The Number 1 Escape Room in Amsterdam - Sherlocked, talks about 'awesomeness', the need for magic and finding your better self through play.

00:50:51
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E5. Ruud Janssen. Designing Events To Inspire Behavior Change.

What are events? What are they for? How much time do you invest in designing them comparing to the time they last? Does it make sense to spend 1% of that time to strategise what change you hope to inspire Ruud Janssen, the co-author of the "Event Design Handbook", talks about behaviour change, the event design process and living in the moment.

00:33:57
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E4. Jericca Cleland. Narrative, a Framework For Human Thought and Reason.

We are all inspired and driven by stories. We all think in narratives, no matter where we come from. It shapes our world, our thinking, our actions. Yes, our lives are ultimately fashioned by the tales we weave. Jericca Cleland, an award-winning writer and director, talks about story substructure, how she designed her own life and the need for authenticity.

00:49:48
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E3. Jorgen Bang Jenssen. A Business Case For Experience: Measure Twice, Cut Once.

You can't execute what you don't measure. Jorgen Bang Jenssen, the former CEO of the Polish telecom Play, talks about the need for consistency, the value of transformation and the need for customer-centricity in today's world.

00:48:04
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E2. Joe Pine. The Experience Economy Is Here. Now It's Time For Transformational Design.

The Experience Economy is finally here! Joe Pine, co-author of 'The Experience Economy', shares his thoughts on designing for 'time well saved' and 'time well spent'. He also leads us towards the ultimate actualisation of the experience economy: the need for transformative experiences.

01:08:19
Episode 5 Sep 2018

S1.E1. Aga Szóstek & Werner Puchert. INTRO: What's Next For Design?

We find ourselves in a world bogged down in technology. It needs to change, we believe this change is inevitable. In fact, It is already happening under our noses and Design will be in the thick of it. We kick off with our podcast wondering: what is next for Design? Is the Experience Economy already here? Or did the world take another turn? What is the meaning of positive psychology, searching for happiness and addressing deep human needs? Will this become a discussion point in the boardroom? Will it ever?

00:34:10
Bonus 29 Aug 2018

Bonus: Jericca Cleland. Using Story Structure For Podcast Design.

We have a short sneak-peak episode of Catching the Next Wave Podcast where Aga and Werner explore the future of design. We asked our talented friend Jerrica Cleland how we could apply her narrative structure to the design of the first season of our show.

00:10:26